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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth, thanks for the insight here. I agree with you about the energy required to get into the zone. Re reasons for writing, one of the main ideas Shapiro is reacting to is the notion that we write out of a psychological need to deal with trauma in our lives, that writing is therapy. I&#039;ve always disliked that idea. 

I started writing an essay last week but abandoned it because I just couldn&#039;t get excited writing for a venue with so few readers (journal print publishing). I really enjoy blog writing because the interaction is more abundant. Maybe I&#039;m shortchanging myself, but I think Web 2.0 mediums will dominate in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth, thanks for the insight here. I agree with you about the energy required to get into the zone. Re reasons for writing, one of the main ideas Shapiro is reacting to is the notion that we write out of a psychological need to deal with trauma in our lives, that writing is therapy. I&#8217;ve always disliked that idea. </p>
<p>I started writing an essay last week but abandoned it because I just couldn&#8217;t get excited writing for a venue with so few readers (journal print publishing). I really enjoy blog writing because the interaction is more abundant. Maybe I&#8217;m shortchanging myself, but I think Web 2.0 mediums will dominate in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Adele Long</title>
		<link>http://idratherbewriting.com/2007/10/25/a-self-forgetful-perfectly-useless-concentration/comment-page-1/#comment-64274</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Adele Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(That should have been: &quot;Also, while I think the notion that people often write for the pleasure of being in that flow state *is true*, I don&#039;t think...&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(That should have been: &#8220;Also, while I think the notion that people often write for the pleasure of being in that flow state *is true*, I don&#8217;t think&#8230;&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Adele Long</title>
		<link>http://idratherbewriting.com/2007/10/25/a-self-forgetful-perfectly-useless-concentration/comment-page-1/#comment-64273</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Adele Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we sometimes feel like not writing for a number of reasons.

Sometimes it&#039;s sheer physical balance -- we&#039;re not in a physical or mental place where we&#039;re going to get into the &quot;zone,&quot; and we balk at exerting all that energy for what we suspect will probably be a draining experience rather than an exhilarating one.

Also, while I think the notion that people often write for the pleasure of being in that flow state, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s the *only* reason we write, nor the only factor in making us resist writing.

I know fear of failure plays a prominent role. With creative writing, fear of exposure and of being judged can throw up big road blocks.

I do think it&#039;s wonderful that so many experiences offer access to the flow state -- true zen thought does not promote specifically religious experience as the sole door to spiritual enlightenment, but rather every action and thought. Which opens up many doors of opportunity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we sometimes feel like not writing for a number of reasons.</p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s sheer physical balance &#8212; we&#8217;re not in a physical or mental place where we&#8217;re going to get into the &#8220;zone,&#8221; and we balk at exerting all that energy for what we suspect will probably be a draining experience rather than an exhilarating one.</p>
<p>Also, while I think the notion that people often write for the pleasure of being in that flow state, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the *only* reason we write, nor the only factor in making us resist writing.</p>
<p>I know fear of failure plays a prominent role. With creative writing, fear of exposure and of being judged can throw up big road blocks.</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s wonderful that so many experiences offer access to the flow state &#8212; true zen thought does not promote specifically religious experience as the sole door to spiritual enlightenment, but rather every action and thought. Which opens up many doors of opportunity!</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Swisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Swisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The state you, Shapiro, and Bishop are talking about has been described in the psychology literature as &quot;flow&quot;: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)

Why does it trouble you that our minds like to have such experiences? I don&#039;t see it as a problem. A whole lot of religion and philosophy is geared toward getting ourselves to &quot;be here now&quot;. What&#039;s wrong with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state you, Shapiro, and Bishop are talking about has been described in the psychology literature as &#8220;flow&#8221;: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)</a></p>
<p>Why does it trouble you that our minds like to have such experiences? I don&#8217;t see it as a problem. A whole lot of religion and philosophy is geared toward getting ourselves to &#8220;be here now&#8221;. What&#8217;s wrong with that?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Boink Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 03:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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