Good grief.

Your error,however, was grammatical, and obviously not a typo; you just had no knowledge of the difference. I won’t bother to respond regarding the proper spacing between letters, because I can’t rely on your accreditation as a grammarian; simply because you’re an opponent to rules and regulations. My other”fuck-ups”, as you so eloquently phrased,(I admire your choice of vocabulary, a demonstration of your vast vocabulary and love of words)must be also considered innocuous, in light of the pettiness of your other critiques. Interesting that you punctiliously try to follow grammatical rules in your silly comments, which indicates an inclination to be understood, and an unacknowledged admittance that to be understood you must adhere to those rules.

I’m flattered that you assiduously studied my comments and reread them numerous times to detect the slightest error; errors that you find in almost every book printed,even after being scrupulously perused by its editors.(You obviously, COULD, be bothered). I’m more flattered,however, that you dedicated your time to my peccadilloes in grammar, since you are a huge proponent of descriptivism. You label me to be a grammarian, which I never claimed,nor do I spend ridiculous amounts of time composing these absurd comments,(you flatter yourself) as you presume. I therefore accept it as a compliment, since you detect a formality in my writing.

I only commented on the inaccuracies and misinformation of your blog. I never resorted to ad hominem attacks as you did; but because I criticized your silly blog you immediately became defensive and attacked me personally rather than argue your point.

You, and your pitiful friend, can certainly dish it out, but both of you dismantle to any slight criticism. We had no debate, as you indicated, because both of you could never refute any of my arguments, you were too caught up in your ridiculous philosophical inanities that had nothing to do with writing or words. Your friends assertion that Latin has been a dead language for thousands of years is incorrect, but do you or he acknowledge the error that he so ignorantly claimed for everyone to read. You just throw things out there to serve whatever silly purpose, but you lose creditability because of your erroneous claims and preposterous theories.

You and your little friend are nonentities to me; I have no personal feelings for either of you. I only have facts that verifiably oppose your opinions and theories that are based solely on emotion rather than truth.

In conclusion to my futile comments directed at stubborn, agenda-driven ears I’m compelled to educate you concerning the importance of words and grammar and its relationship to writing, but more importantly to the art of writing.

Oscar Wilde, as he was working on a poem in the morning, took out a comma; in the afternoon he put it back in.

Herman Melville would dedicate one week on one word in a sentence; changing it numerous times until he was satisfied that it was the right word.

The majority of great writers produce mediocrity, and then they dedicate days, weeks, months, and years to revising,rewriting and reconfiguring until they submit their masterpiece.

I’ve edified you sufficiently, whereas you have just substantiated my opinion on people who live in denial. Good luck in your world of ideological stupidity.

P.S.

If you want to fight me with words I suggest you do your fighting with your boyfriend, who will undoubtedly break down should you refer to him as a “meanie”; such a powerful word.

Ash and I are both bowing out of this, I’m sure you’ll choose to see it as us admitting defeat as you did when I left last time, but that’s just because an ego your size can’t handle the thought that you’re just an awful, tedious, nasty person to try and debate with. All I did was post a link to a blog about how I believe its not ok to put people down if they can’t spell or use grammar properly, and you turned it into a slinging match. In short, you’re a bully and you resorted to insults in our debate which ended up making me do the same which I don’t like. Insults in a debate are the refuge of the desperate and we won’t be pulled down to your level again.

One thing I will address is your claim that Ash was using his incest survival as an excuse, and I’m only doing this because in all the examples we now have of you being nasty, this was the biggest. Not once did Ash claim his awful experience was a ‘badge of honour’ or a ‘privilege’. It was actually the most horrific experience of his young life. All he was saying was that it impeded his ability to learn which was one of the things I addressed in my post.

Other than that I have only one more thing to say to you. This whole experience has been amazing for us, it’s sent us on a wonderful research mission and the things we’ve found out about language and the history of it has been incredible. If it wasn’t for your bizarre, off the wall misunderstandings of what we both were saying, we would never have discovered all the things we did. We’re both enriched by this experience and hold even closer to our original views than we did before you came into our lives.

We’re both off to enjoy our gorgeous family and pledge to write even more fervently in our own styles than we did before, from now on. We leave you to have the last word as we know you’re the kind of guy that desperately has to. I hope it keeps you warm at night Giuseppe.

Bye Bye!

P.S. In the 5th paragraph of your last comment, you should have used ‘you’re’ not ‘your’. Also you really need to put spaces in between your fullstops, commas, semicolons…etc. There’s a few other fuck ups I could ‘educate’ you on, but hey, I seriously can’t be bothered. One of the awful things about being a self proclaimed grammarian is that you end up spending ridiculous amounts of time laboring over your writing so you don’t seem like a hypocrite, but unfortunately for you, mistakes get made and your writing becomes dry and unreadable and everyone ends up seeing you for the meanie you truly are.

I only claimed that your information was incorrect and that you should not misinform. I never called you a liar. Naturally, since you think one can change the meaning of words at one’s whim, you arbitrarily changed the meaning of my claim.

Regarding your profuse list of English dialects–which does not impress me–you essentially repeat what I claimed in my previous comment;that dialects are unintelligible from one region to another.Furthermore, many of these dialects that you referred to are almost obsolete and are spoken by a minority of people.

Your claim that Standard English has no rules “officially”is an ambiguous assertion. There are rules in “English grammar”; the rules that you adhered to in your comments to me. These grammatical rules one must follow to articulate an intelligent argument.

Your claim that there is no linguistic body governing English is nonsensical and silly. There are no mathematical bodies governing mathematics nor are there any official representatives governing many other subjects. Your not using logic.

Your assertion that Latin is not the language of any nation and has not been for “thousands” of years is incorrect;and again you misinform. Latin is to this day the official tongue of the Vatican City and the official language of the Roman Catholic Church. Francis Bacon, as did many of his contemporaries, preferred writing in Latin;he thought it to be the proper medium of scholarship.

Furthermore, Latin was spoken and studied well into the beginning of the Twentieth Century. Francis Bacon was living in the 16th and 17th Centuries, therefore, your emphatic declaration that Latin has been dead for “thousands” of years” is false. Approximately fifty to sixty percent of English words derive from Latin, in fact the majority of words in my comments and yours stem from Latin. They are not “just… some words” that “have been absorbed into the vernacular” as you so defiantly and ignorantly asserted. Do you now understand the inaccuracies of your arguments?

P.S. I’m completely uninterested in the fact that you’re an incest survivor. It’s completely irrelevant to our correspondence and frankly I find it quite pathetic that you seem to think it to be a badge of honor or privilege.

G.M.

So lets get to the main course, what about Cheshire, Cumbrian, Geordie, Lancastrian, Scouse, Mancunian, Mackem Northumbrian, Pitmatic, Yorkshire, Black Country English, Brummie, Potteries, Cockney, East Anglican, Estuary, Kentish and Multicultural London English? All recognised dialects in England. Some English dialects are almost unintelligible from one region to another and they each use their own grammar,pronunciation and vocabulary. Are you aware that ‘Standard English’ doesn’t actually have any rules officially? There is no linguistic body governing it so what may I ask is your authoritative work of reference? There are many and just because you believe in one, doesn’t make it any more real than what others believe in.

Latin is not the language of any nation, and hasn’t been for thousands of years, Id say that means its dead. Just because some words have been absorbed into the vernacular doesn’t mean it’s alive.Thankyou for this lively discussion sir but I don’t like being called a liar. I merely have a different point of view than you and I am sure you will call all my facts baseless but I am also sure if you do some research you will find works that back up my point of view.

so be well sir
kisses
Ashley baker

People from one region or district in England could not understand each other because of the various dialects and many of those dialects lacked grammatical content.

Latin is not dead as you again erroneously claim,approximately one-half of modern words in English have been borrowed from Latin.

Language is not what you “make it”, it makes you.

Your information is incorrect; I suggest you read more on language, its origin and progression, before you spew out misinformation.

GM

More grammar hijinx at http://tabularasacity.blogspot.com/

Your affected and flowery writing is relegated to vapidness.
By assiduously trying to be unconventional you’ve become a cliche.

My point was made four comments ago and it was a bull’s-eye; it spurred all that vitriol from a dying woman.

G.Mirelli

Poor old Giuseppe. You have done nothing for your cause. All you have done is reconfirm ALL the beliefs I hold about dull, elitist grammarians such as yourself. Honestly, I can’t even be bothered arguing with you any more as your dry, flat writing style is giving me a headache. The thought of having to deal with any more of your banality and superfluous wordiness, puts me off answering to any of your condescending, off the wall accusations.

All I can say is I pity you and leave it at that. Feel free to unleash another boring, but oh so correctly placed, torrent of words, I certainly won’t be reading it anyway. I learned a long time ago that it’s pointless to try and talk to people like you. Go forth and correct your little heart out you pompous bully, I’m sure it makes you feel so much better than everyone else and after all, that’s what words are for, right? Adios.