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	<title>Comments on: Discovering Relationship Tables</title>
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		<title>By: Julio Vazquez</title>
		<link>http://idratherbewriting.com/2009/08/03/discovering-relationship-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-153744</link>
		<dc:creator>Julio Vazquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cliff - That&#039;s an interesting way of using a relationship table and could work fairly easily. I suggest you look at Eliot Kimber&#039;s work on the DITA for Publishers project (on SourceForge). He might have defined a way to do something like that for PDF type deliverables.

@Tom - The DITA OT already has a default presentation for the entries in relationship tables. Those are added as links at the end of the topic in the Related Tasks, Related Concepts, Related Reference, and Related Information lists. Cliff&#039;s idea of putting the links in a &quot;sidebar&quot; would just be a matter of how to define the &quot;sidebar&quot; and directing the current processing to place those links in that area. I haven&#039;t really looked at how to do this, but it may not be difficult if you&#039;re familiar with XSLT. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cliff &#8211; That&#8217;s an interesting way of using a relationship table and could work fairly easily. I suggest you look at Eliot Kimber&#8217;s work on the DITA for Publishers project (on SourceForge). He might have defined a way to do something like that for PDF type deliverables.</p>
<p>@Tom &#8211; The DITA OT already has a default presentation for the entries in relationship tables. Those are added as links at the end of the topic in the Related Tasks, Related Concepts, Related Reference, and Related Information lists. Cliff&#8217;s idea of putting the links in a &#8220;sidebar&#8221; would just be a matter of how to define the &#8220;sidebar&#8221; and directing the current processing to place those links in that area. I haven&#8217;t really looked at how to do this, but it may not be difficult if you&#8217;re familiar with XSLT. <img src='http://idratherbewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cliff, thanks for the tip. It&#039;s a neat idea, but really the relationship table might be more complicated to implement for something on the web. As I understand it, the relationship table is one of the features in the DITA world. Flare provides this feature because it incorporated DITA into its output experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliff, thanks for the tip. It&#8217;s a neat idea, but really the relationship table might be more complicated to implement for something on the web. As I understand it, the relationship table is one of the features in the DITA world. Flare provides this feature because it incorporated DITA into its output experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Tyllick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Tyllick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, it seems to me that this is one model that could be used to pull embedded links out of text, which was the subject of your interview with Whitney Quesenbery and Caroline Jarrett at STC 2010.

Using a relationship table, put the links in context in a sidebar. You could even add a &quot;Definitions&quot; heading at the end, where each term that needs to be defined could be linked to its definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, it seems to me that this is one model that could be used to pull embedded links out of text, which was the subject of your interview with Whitney Quesenbery and Caroline Jarrett at STC 2010.</p>
<p>Using a relationship table, put the links in context in a sidebar. You could even add a &#8220;Definitions&#8221; heading at the end, where each term that needs to be defined could be linked to its definition.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 10:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tom Johnson looks at relationship tables in Flare [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Few Software Tips to Make Technical Writing Easier &#124; I'd Rather Be Writing - Tom Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Few Software Tips to Make Technical Writing Easier &#124; I'd Rather Be Writing - Tom Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] relationship tables. I just discovered relationship tables a few weeks ago, but it greatly simplifies related links by allowing me to manage all my links in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Julio Vazquez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julio Vazquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom,

When I had time to beta test Flare, I don&#039;t even think relationship tables were implemented yet. I&#039;m not sure that there is much difference but as Flare supports more output formats than the DITA OT, there has to be unique implementations for each unique type. I have to believe that Flare has to do things to process relationship tables that are different from the OT but not necessarily better or worse. If I gave the impression that the differences were significant, that&#039;s my bad. :D

BTW, I would have never thought to have had a 4th column in a reltable as a hint to the writer, so I applaud that use case. I would have used it as a task to task relationship column (with possible alteration of the linking attributes to prevent incorrect linkages to the concept and reference topics). I&#039;ve always looked at reltables as a method to express relationships among topics that don&#039;t have a navigational relationship.

What I&#039;m most interested in is the day when Flare has full authoring support for DITA, which is still to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>When I had time to beta test Flare, I don&#8217;t even think relationship tables were implemented yet. I&#8217;m not sure that there is much difference but as Flare supports more output formats than the DITA OT, there has to be unique implementations for each unique type. I have to believe that Flare has to do things to process relationship tables that are different from the OT but not necessarily better or worse. If I gave the impression that the differences were significant, that&#8217;s my bad. <img src='http://idratherbewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW, I would have never thought to have had a 4th column in a reltable as a hint to the writer, so I applaud that use case. I would have used it as a task to task relationship column (with possible alteration of the linking attributes to prevent incorrect linkages to the concept and reference topics). I&#8217;ve always looked at reltables as a method to express relationships among topics that don&#8217;t have a navigational relationship.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m most interested in is the day when Flare has full authoring support for DITA, which is still to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soren -- thanks for pointing that out. Good to know. I appreciate your participation in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soren &#8212; thanks for pointing that out. Good to know. I appreciate your participation in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julio, I&#039;m interested to learn more about how Flare&#039;s use of relationship tables differs from the standard tables in DITA. If you want to elaborate, feel free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julio, I&#8217;m interested to learn more about how Flare&#8217;s use of relationship tables differs from the standard tables in DITA. If you want to elaborate, feel free.</p>
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